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HINDUISM, SIKHISM AND ISLAM: ARE THESE GOD'S RELIGIONS

CHAPTER 3

Are Ramayana, Mahabharata and Gita the Word of God?


In the beginning, we had established one criterion to prove if a scripture is the word of God, which was to see if God’s Almighty power is demonstrated in its pages by God foretelling numerous events (not one or two, which can come true by mere coincidence, especially when there is a 50% chance that the event can come true or not, such as victory in a particular battle) and bringing them to pass exactly as foretold through months, years, decades, centuries or millennia. This is the ONLY CRITERION which can prove that a holy book is the word of God. Using this criterion, all the three holy books of Hinduism fail our test. Hence, they are NOT the word of God. They are writings of mere men.

Another way we can demonstrate that a holy book is NOT the word of God is by proving that the holy book contains enormous amount of information that is simply too fantastic to be believed. It defies human reason. However, this criterion still cannot prove that the holy book is the word of God. With all the quotes from the two holy books I have provided (we don’t need to consider the Gita separately as it is a small part of the Mahabharata itself), it is abundantly clear that most of the information contained in them is utterly ridiculous nonsense. Both books are full of much more similar trash. It defies human reason. Therefore, these holy books are NOT the word of God.

The final way to prove that the holy book is NOT the word of God is to find some provable scientific or historical errors. Since we are trying to prove that the holy book is the word of God, it should contain no errors at all, because God cannot make mistakes. Only in the Gita Krishna claims he created everything, but not how he did it, or how it is supported. The idea that the earth stands on the horns of a bull comes from other Hindu scriptures. I have not delved deeper to find scientific errors. But I will discuss some of Krishna’s philosophy in the Gita later and offer my comments on the inconsistencies.

Some Greek Myths

Now consider some Greek myths, which are equally implausible.

Here are some of the myths attributed to the Greek god Zeus, who is the same as the Roman god Jupiter, and is also the Indian god Indra (though the deeds attributed to them in the Indian, Greek and Roman myths are different, as they developed independently after deification, which will be explained later. Indra and Zeus’s identity will also be revealed] from the website www.theoi.com. He is the equivalent of the Indian god Indra [my comments in square brackets]:

Zeus

“ZEUS was the King of the Gods and the god of the sky, weather, law and order, destiny and fate, and kingship. He was depicted as a regal, mature man with a sturdy figure and dark beard. His usual attributes were a lightning bolt, a royal sceptre and an eagle.

 ‘Zeus was the youngest child of the Titans Kronos (Cronus) and Rheia. Kronos devoured each of his children as they were born, but Zeus escaped this fate when his mother spirited him away, handing the Titan a stone substitute wrapped in swaddling cloth.

“The god was raised in secrecy on Mount Dikte in Krete (Crete) where he was nursed by nymphs on the milk of the goat Amaltheia and guarded by the warrior Kouretes (Curetes) who drowned out the sound of his crying with their shield-clashing battle-dance.

“Upon coming of age Zeus recruited the goddess Metis to his cause. She served the Titan Kronos a magical draught which caused him to disgorge the young gods he had devoured.

“Zeus liberated the six giant-sons of Heaven from the pit of Tartaros. In gratitude the Kyklopes (Cyclopes) armed him with lightning-bolts [Sound familiar to you Hindus? Rishis getting boons of weapons such as agniastra, brahmastra etc, and the thunderbolts of Indra] and the Hekatonkheires (Hundred-Handed) [does Ravana sound familiar] aided him in his assault on the Titanes with volleys of thrown boulders. Kronos and his allies were eventually defeated and banished to a prison beneath the earth.

After the fall of the Titan-gods, Zeus and his brothers drew lots to divide rule of the cosmos - Zeus won the heavens, Poseidon the sea and Haides the underworld.

“Zeus devoured the pregnant goddess Metis when an oracle revealed that her son was destined to replace him as King of the Gods. Their child, Athena, was subsequently born in his belly and birthed directly from his head. [Another part of the myth is that the god Hephaestus hit Zeus’s head with an axe and out came Athena fully grown].

“Zeus married his sister Hera, queen of the heavens, after seducing her in the guise of a cuckoo-bird. But this union of ever quarreling sky-god and sky-goddess proved not to be a match made in heaven! [Don’t you recognize these as human beings who had deified themselves?]

“Prometheus crafted the race of man and gave them fire stolen from the gods of heaven. Zeus punished this act by ordering the creation of the first woman, Pandora, and sent her to earth with a vessel full of troubles to plague mankind. Prometheus himself was arrested and chained to a mountain with an eagle set to torment him.

“The early generations of man descended into wickedness and corruption and Zeus decided to wipe them from the face of the earth with a great deluge. One virtuous couple, Deukalion and Pyrrha, were spared and afterwards allowed to repopulate the world with the casting of stones which transformed into men. [Wow! Stones were transformed into men.]

“The earth-goddess Gaia (Gaea), angered by the imprisonment of the Titanes, urged the Giants to rise up against the gods of Olympos. They laid siege to the heavenly fortress, but Zeus laid low their king and many others with his deadly lightning-bolts.

Gaia produced one more giant, Typhoeus, the most monstrous of his kind and set him upon Olympos. The rest of the gods fled in horror and Zeus himself was defeated in combat with the monster tearing the sinews from his limbs rendering him helpless. [what kind of a god of gods is Zeus if he can be defeated by a monster? This is a hint that these were all human beings who had deified themselves.] Pan later stole back the god's strength and, restored, Zeus defeated the giant in a rematch and bound him beneath Mount Etna.

“Zeus seduced many mortal women including Leda in the guise of a swan, Europa as a bull, Danae as a shower of gold, Alkmene as her own husband, Kallisto (Callisto) as the goddess Artemis, and Antiope as a satyr. [What an unholy and wicked god].

Hephaestus (Vulcan)

Here are some myths about the Greek god Hephaestus (the Roman Vulcan):

Hesiod, Theogony 929a ff: "[Theogony text version 2:] But Hera was very angry and quarreled with her mate [Zeus]. And because of this strife she bare without union with Zeus [without sexual intercourse] who holds the aegis a glorious son, Hephaistos, who excelled all the sons of Heaven in crafts. But Zeus lay with the fair-cheeked daughter of Okeanos and Tethys apart from Hera [and from this union Athene was born]."

Homeric Hymn 3 to Pythian Apollo 310 ff (trans. Evelyn-White) (Greek epic C7th to 4th B.C.): “Hera was angry and spoke thus among the assembled gods : ‘. . . See now, apart from me he [Zeus] has given birth to bright-eyed Athene who is foremost among all the blessed gods. But my son Hephaistos whom I bare was weakly among all the blessed gods and shriveled of foot, a shame and a disgrace to me in heaven, whom I myself took in my hands and cast out so that he fell in the great sea. But silver-shod Thetis the daughter of Nereus took and cared for him with her sisters: would that she had done other service to the blessed gods!’"

Pseudo-Apollodorus, Bibliotheca 1. 19 (trans. Aldrich) (Greek mythographer C2nd A.D.:
"Zeus threw him [Hephaistos] from the sky for helping Hera when she was in chains. Zeus had hung her from Olympos as punishment for setting a storm on Herakles as he was sailing back from his conquest of Troy. Hephaistos landed on Lemnos, crippled in both legs, but saved by Thetis."

Pseudo-Hyginus, Fabulae 142 (trans. Grant) (Roman mythographer C2nd A.D.):
"Prometheus, son of Iapetus, first fashioned men from clay. Later Vulcanus [Hephaistos], at Jove's [Zeus; ] command, made a woman's form from clay. Minerva [Athena] gave it life, and the rest of the gods each gave some other gift. Because of this they named her Pandora. She was given in marriage to Prometheus' brother Epimetheus."

Pseudo-Apollodorus, Bibliotheca 1. 45 (trans. Aldrich) (Greek mythographer C2nd A.D. :
"He [Zeus] ordered Hephaistos to rivet the body of Prometheus to Mount Kaukasos, a Skythian mountain, where he was kept fastened and bound for many years."

"Typhon . . . felt an urge to usurp the rule of Zeus and not one of the gods could withstand him as he attacked. In panic they fled to Aigyptos (Egypt), all except Athena and Zeus, who alone were left. Typhon hunted after them, on their track. When they fled they had changed themselves in anticipation into animal forms . . . Hephaistos [became] an ox [Ptah] . . . When Zeus struck Typhon with a thunderbolt, Typhon, aflame hid himself and quenched the blaze in the sea.

Aeschylus, Bassarae (lost play) (Greek tragedy C5th B.C.): The subject of this lost play is summarised by Weir Smyth (L.C.L.): "Thetis, accompanied by her sister Nereïdes, comes from the depths of the sea to enquire the cause of the lamentations of her son. She finds Akhilleus by the dead body of Patroklos and promises to procure from Hephaistos new armor that he may take vengeance on Hector, who has been exulting over the death of Patroklos.

Homer, Iliad 21. 328 - 384: "[The river-god Skamandros tries to drown Akhilleus [Achilles] in his stream :] Hera, greatly fearing for Akhilleus, cried in a loud voice lest he be swept away in the huge deep-eddying River, and at once thereafter appealed to her own dear son, Hephaistos : ‘Rise up god of the dragging feet (kyllopodion), my child; for we believe that whirling Xanthos [i.e. Skamandros] would be fit antagonist for you in battle. Go now quickly to the help of Akhilleus, make shine a great flame while I raise up and bring in out of the sea a troublesome storm of the West Wind (Zephyros) and the whitening South Wind (Notos), a storm that will burn the heads of the Trojans and burn their armour carrying the evil flame, while you be the banks of Xanthos set fire to the trees and throw fire on the River himself, and do not by any means let him turn you with winning words or revilements. Do not let your fury be stopped until such time as I lift my voice and cry to you. Then stay your weariless burning.’

Pseudo-Apollodorus, Bibliotheca E4. 7 (trans. Aldrich) (Greek mythographer C2nd A.D.):"Akhilleus set aside his wrath and was given Briseis back. He put on a full suit of armour brought him from Hephaistos and went out to war, driving the Trojans in a body to the [river] Skamandros, where he destroyed many . . . In fury the River rose up against him. But Hephaistos chased the River with a great flame and dried up his stream."

Such is the stuff the Greeks and Romans realized as sheer nonsense and gave it up nearly 2000 years ago and converted to Christianity. The Egyptians converted to Christianity and then Islam. Only the Hindus have not been able to recognize their myths as just myths, made up, ridiculously foolish stories. The Ramayana, Mahabharata and the Gita are not holy scriptures. They are fabrications of Satan the devil who is making monkeys and fools out of Hindus by having inspired all this nonsense. Its high time the Hindus rejected the stupid, ridiculous tales and out of this world lies in their ‘holy’ books. They are not holy books if they are full of lies from the beginning to the end, of which I have quoted only a few. There is no salvation in lies. The salvation described in these holy books is a colossal lie. Hindus should instead worship the only true God.

Claims of Krishna in the Gita

While the Ramayana and the Mahabharata contain an abundance of such utterly ridiculous and foolish tales, the Bhagwat Gita (which is a small part of the Mahabharata) on the other hand contains philosophy on how to live, imparted by Krishna to Arjuna, a Pandava, in order to persuade him to fight in the war with the Kauravas. Here are the tall claims the duplicitous Krishna makes in the Gita: [Quotations are from the translation by Sir Purohit Swami; My comments in square brackets]. 

Chapter 4 – Dnyana Yoga – The Path of Wisdom

“Lord Shri Krishna said: This imperishable philosophy I taught to Viwaswana, the founder of the Sun dynasty [this is very significant, as will become clear when we discuss the identity of Krishna], Viwaswana gave it to Manu the lawgiver, and Manu to King Ikshwaku! The Divine Kings [obviously no human being is divine. These are human kings who had deified themselves] knew it, for it was their tradition. Then, after a long time, at last it was forgotten. It is the same ancient Path that I have now revealed to you, since you are my devotee and my friend. It is the supreme Secret.

Arjuna asked: My Lord! Viwaswana was born before you; how then could you have revealed it to him?

Lord Shri Krishna replied: I have been born again and again, from time to time; you too, O Arjuna! My births are known to Me, but you know not yours. I have no beginning. Though I am imperishable, as well as Lord of all that exists, yet by My own will and power do I manifest myself. Whenever spirituality decays and materialism is rampant, then, O Arjuna, I reincarnate Myself! To protect the righteous, to destroy the wicked and to establish the kingdom of God, I am reborn from age to age. [Krishna claims he is the creator and sustainer of everything. How was the universe sustained when he reincarnated himself as a human being? His claims are not coherent. They make no sense.]

He who realizes the divine truth concerning My birth and life is not born again; and when he leaves his body, he becomes one with Me. Many have merged their existences in Mine [Where does going to heaven fit it? Presumably Krishna is in heaven! But if our existence is merged in him, what was the point in separating from him in the first place? This is salvation that makes absolutely no sense at all.], being freed from desire, fear and anger, filled always with Me and purified by the illuminating flame of self-abnegation.

Howsoever men try to worship Me, so do I welcome them. By whatever path they travel, it leads to Me at last. Those who look for success, worship the Powers [means Brahma, Shiva, Vishnu, goddesses Lakshmi, Parvati etc.]; and in this world their actions bear immediate fruit.

The four divisions of society (the wise, the soldier, the merchant, the laborer) were created by Me [When we know Krishna’s true identity, this claim is only partially right. These divisions were actually made by Manu, though Krishna was associated with him], according to the natural distribution of Qualities [Purity, Passion and Ignorance, Chapter 14] and instincts. I am the author of them, though I Myself do no action, and am changeless.

Chapter 7 – Knowledge and Experience

“Among thousands of men scarcely one strives for perfection, and even amongst those who gain occult powers, perchance but one knows me in truth.

Earth, water, fire, air, ether, mind, intellect and personality; this is the eightfold division of My Manifested Nature. This is My inferior Nature; but distinct from this, O Valiant One, know that my Superior Nature is the very Life which sustains the universe. It is the womb of all being; for I am He by Whom the worlds were created and shall be dissolved. O Arjuna! There is nothing higher than Me; all is strung upon Me as rows of pearls upon a thread.

O Arjuna! I am the Fluidity in water, the Light in the sun and in the moon. I am the mystic syllable Om in the Vedic scriptures, the Sound in ether, the Virility in man. I am the Fragrance of earth, the Brilliance of fire. I am the Life Force in all beings, and I am the Austerity of the ascetics.

Know, O Arjuna, that I am the eternal Seed of being; I am the Intelligence of the intelligent, the Splendor of the resplendent. I am the Strength of the strong, of them who are free from attachment and desire; and, O Arjuna, I am the Desire for righteousness.

Whatever be the nature of their life, whether it be pure or passionate or ignorant, they are all derived from Me. They are in Me, but I am not in them. The inhabitants of the world, misled by those natures which the Qualities have engendered, know not that I am higher than them all, and that I do not change.

Chapter 8 – Life Everlasting

Repeating Om, the Symbol of Eternity, holding Me always in remembrance, he who thus leaves his body and goes forth reaches the Spirit Supreme.

Chapter 9 – The Science of science and the Mystery of Mysteries

Under my guidance, Nature produces all things movable and immovable. Thus, it is, O Arjuna, that this universe revolves. Fools disregard Me, seeing Me clad in human form. They know not that in My higher nature I am the Lord-God of all. Their hopes are vain, their actions worthless, their knowledge futile; they are without sense, deceitful, barbarous and godless.

But the Great Souls, O Arjuna! Filled with My Divine Spirit, they worship Me, they fix their minds on Me and on Me alone, for they know that I am the imperishable Source of being. Always extolling Me, strenuous, firm in their vows, prostrating themselves before Me, they worship Me continually with concentrated devotion. Others worship Me with full consciousness as the One, the Manifold, the Omnipresent, the Universal.

I am the Oblation, the Sacrifice and the Worship; I am the Fuel and the Chant, I am the Butter offered to the fire, I am the Fire itself, and I am the Act of offering. I am the Father of the universe and its Mother; I am its Nourisher and its Grandfather; I am the Knowable and the Pure; I am Om; and I am the Sacred Scriptures. I am the Goal, the Sustainer [How was the earth sustained when Krishna, the be-all incarnated himself as Krishna. Foolishness of the highest order.], the Lord, the Witness, the Home, the Shelter, the Lover and the Origin; I am Life and Death; I am the Fountain and the Seed Imperishable. I am the Heat of the Sun, I release and hold back the Rains. I am Death and Immortality; I am Being and Not-Being [A lot of meaningless nonsense].

Those who are versed in the scriptures, who drink the mystic Soma-juice [and what is this juice called Soma that purifies sin? What a philosophy, that mere drinking of a juice can purify a person from sin. Anything mystic is always a deception. The real God does not deal in mysticism, because it serves no purpose.] and are purified from sin, but who while worshipping Me with sacrifices pray that I will lead them to heaven; they reach the holy world where lives the Controller of the Powers of Nature, and they enjoy the feasts of Paradise. Yet although they enjoy the spacious glories of Paradise, nevertheless, when their merit is exhausted, they are born again into this world of mortals. [And how is this merit gained? By practicing austerities according to Hinduism. Such nonsense is the reason we see Indians wasting their lives on the banks of the Ganges river, practicing asceticism, or engaging in other austerities to gain merit, consuming without producing, obtaining what they consume as mendicants, and without any evidence that they gain the merit points that they seek]. They have followed the letter of the scriptures, yet because they have sought but to fulfill their own desires, they must depart and return again and again. But if a man will meditate on Me and Me alone, and will worship Me always and everywhere, I will take upon Myself the fulfillment of his aspiration, and I will safeguard whatsoever he shall attain.

Chapter 10 - Divine Manifestations

In Chapter 10 on Krishna’s divine manifestations, Arjuna asked: You art the Supreme Spirit, the Eternal Home, the Holiest of the Holy, the Eternal Divine Self, the Primal God, the Unborn and the Omnipresent. So have said the seers and the divine sage Narada…and you yourself also say it…Please tell me all about your glorious manifestations, by means of which you pervade the world.

Lord Shri Krishna replied: So be it, My beloved friend! I will unfold to thee some of the chief aspects of My glory. Of its full extent there is no end.

O Arjuna! I am the Self, seated in the hearts of all beings; I am the beginning and the life, and I am the end of them all. Of all the creative Powers I am the Creator, of luminaries the Sun; the Whirlwind among the winds, and the Moon among planets. Of the Vedas I am the Hymns, I am the Electric Force in the Powers of Nature; of the senses I am the Mind; and I am the Intelligence in all that lives.

Among Forces of Vitality I am the life, I am Mammon to the heathen and the godless; I am the Energy in fire, earth, wind, sky, heaven, sun, moon and planets; and among mountains I am the Mount Meru.

Among the priests, know, O Arjuna, that I am the Apostle Brihaspati; of generals I am Skanda, the Commander-in-Chief [If this is Alexander the Great, then the Mahabharata was written after Alexander came to India], and of waters I am the Ocean. Of the great seers I am Bhrigu, of words I am Om, of offerings I am the silent prayer, among things immovable I am the Himalayas. Of trees I am the sacred Fig-tree, of the Divine Seers Narada, of the heavenly singers I am Chitraratha, their Leader, and of sages I am Kapila. Know that among horses I am Pegasus, the heaven-born; among the lordly elephants I am the White one, and I am the Ruler among men. I am the Thunderbolt among weapons; of cows I am the Cow of Plenty, I am Passion in those who procreate, and I am the Cobra among serpents. I am the King-python among snakes, I am the Aqueous Principle among those that live in water, I am the Father of fathers, and among rulers I am Death. And I am the devotee Prahlad among the heathen; of Time I am the Eternal Present; I am the Lion among beasts and the Eagle among birds. I am the Wind among purifiers, the King Rama among warriors; I am the Crocodile among the fishes, and I am the Ganges among rivers.

I am the Beginning, the Middle and the End in creation; among sciences, I am the science of Spirituality; I am the Discussion among disputants. Of letters I am A; I am the copulative in compound words; I am Time inexhaustible; and I am the all-pervading Preserver. I am all-devouring Death; I am the Origin of all that shall happen; I am Fame, Fortune, Speech, Memory, Intellect, Constancy and Forgiveness…I am the Spring among seasons…and the Splendour of the splendid; I am Victory; I am Effort; and I am the Purity of the pure. I am Shri Krishna among the Vishnu-clan and Arjuna among the Pandavas; of the saints I am Vyasa, and I am Shukracharya among the sages.

I am the Sceptre of rulers, the Strategy of the conquerors, the Silence of mystery, the Wisdom of the wise. I am the Seed of all being, O Arjuna! No creature moving or unmoving can live without Me. O Arjuna! The aspects of My divine life are endless. I have mentioned but a few by way of illustration. Whatever is glorious, excellent, beautiful and mighty, be assured that it comes from a fragment of My splendor. But what is the use of all these details to thee? O Arjuna! I sustain this universe with only small part of Myself.”

You will not hear so many meaningless “I ams” from any other god, “I am this and I am that” than in this conversation between Krishna and his devotee Arjuna. But these are mere words. Krishna has not backed up any of his statements with verifiable acts as proof. There is no way to prove if all that Krishna claims is true. Since he cannot prove it, we have to conclude that the tall claims made by Krishna and Rama are pure lies. Both are charlatans and deceivers. The true God does not make claims that cannot be verified. The God of the Bible has given us plenty of proofs that He is the true God. You can find all those proofs in my book “Which Religion is True?” available free of charge at my web site www.ChurchofGodMessage.com.

Chapter 13 – Spirit and Matter

I will speak to thee now of that great Truth which man ought to know, since by its means he will win immortal bliss – that which is without beginning, the Eternal Spirit which dwells in Me, neither with form, nor yet without it.

Know thou further that Nature and God have no beginning [Really? Not according to the Big Bang theory, which shows that matter on earth and the universe was created. Nature had a beginning]; and that differences of character and quality have their origin in Nature only.

Chapter 17 – The Threefold Faith

The food which men enjoy is also threefold, like the ways of sacrifice, austerity and almsgiving. Listen to the distinction.

The foods that prolong life and increase purity, vigor, health, cheerfulness and happiness are those that are delicious, soothing, substantial and agreeable. These are loved by the Pure.

Those in whom Passion is dominant like foods that are bitter, sour, salty, over-hot, pungent, dry and burning. These produce unhappiness, repentance and disease.

The Ignorant love food which is stale, not nourishing, putrid and corrupt, the leavings of others and unclean. [This is sheer nonsense and could not be the words of God].

Chapter 18 – The Spirit of Renunciation

 O Arjuna! The duties of spiritual teachers, the soldiers, the traders and the servants have all been fixed according to the dominant Quality in their nature.

Serenity, self-restraint, austerity, purity, forgiveness, as well as uprightness, knowledge, wisdom and faith in God – these constitute the duty of a spiritual Teacher.

Valor, glory, firmness, skill, generosity, steadiness in battle and ability to rule – these constitute the duty of a soldier. They flow from his own nature.

Agriculture, protection of the cow and trade are the duty of a trader, again in accordance with his nature. The duty of a servant is to serve, and that too agrees with his nature.

Perfection is attained when each attends diligently to his duty. Listen and I will tell you how it is attained by him who always minds his own duty. Man reaches perfection by dedicating his actions to God, Who is the source of all being, and fills everything. It is better to do one’s own duty, however defective it may be, than to follow the duty of another, however well one may perform it. He who does his duty as his own nature reveals it, never sins. The duty that of itself falls to one’s lot should not be abandoned, though it may have its defects. All acts are marred by defects, as fire is obscured by smoke.

[This is one of Hinduism’s most damnable philosophies that flies against reality. Many people engaged in agriculture can have all the qualities of a spiritual teacher, as well as a soldier. This terrible philosophy has led to the horrible caste system in India. This is not God-inspired but is devil-inspired as evident from its fruits. The origins of the caste -system are traced next, and it was originated by a man named Manu, who was rebelling against the true God. Fortunately, many Indians are rejecting such segregation of society today].

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